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Post by SL the Pyro on Feb 28, 2017 14:30:56 GMT
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Masamune
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Post by Masamune on Feb 28, 2017 15:08:19 GMT
It feels like someone played the Inverted Song of Time.
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Post by DarkJuno on Mar 2, 2017 1:13:57 GMT
I thought to make a Zelda thread, but I figure that should be reserved for Breath of the Wild proper when one of us finally gets it and the Switch in a couple days. So here. This seems super cool, the way they prototyped BotW with a 2-D game. But more importantly, Nintendo said that their own internal level tool they sue to plan out Mario stages was what they used to make Mario Maker. So....Zelda Maker maybe...? Switch -ahem- between Original, LttP, PH/ST and LBW styles? |
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Post by Masamune on Mar 2, 2017 3:09:43 GMT
I wonder how well Zelda Maker would work. It would probably end up just being a dungeon maker, though having a procedurally generated overworld connecting them could be an interesting concept. The concept of keys for doors is something we already know works in Mario Maker, but the tricky part would be items. I feel like the Four Swords/Triforce Heroes format of having items on pedestals and only being able to equip one at a time would probably work the best. By default, Link might only have his sword, shield, and bow to work with. If they did it like that, they could make it work and even string them together like in the 100 Mario mode. If they did, I'd be all over a game like that.
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Post by JRPomazon on Mar 2, 2017 20:47:47 GMT
They can tell Capcom to get their shit together and rebrand that Mega Man maker they had coming up before they DESTROYED INNOCENCE.
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Post by SL the Pyro on Mar 3, 2017 16:02:41 GMT
 Friend Code: SW-2159-8473-8019 I've got BotW and Bomberman. (video quality is better than what is pictured in my shitty XSplit screenshot) |
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Post by SteveT on Mar 6, 2017 16:01:46 GMT
On thing that's serious missing is the music. I went menu music and I especially want jaunty eshop music. Fix it, Nintendo!
In other news, my Pro Controller should come today. That's something to look forward to.
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Post by Wolf O'Donnell on Mar 6, 2017 19:58:00 GMT
Still thinking about getting this console. Hopefully, I'll be quicker this time round. I waited so long last time that the console became obsolete, and its successor has since become obsolete.
Out of interest, who the Hell decided to lick a Nintendo Switch cartridge? I mean, what possesses someone to do that?
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Post by DarkJuno on Mar 7, 2017 2:49:26 GMT
The licking thing came from Giant Bomb, they were doing a call-in show and Jeff Gerstmann was facetiously pointing out that you review things by shaking them, when one of the other guys (Drew) asked how the "mouth feel" was. Jeff put it in his mouth and immediately found out how terrible they tasted.
Everyone else licking them is just the internet being......the internet. Jeff is pretty bewildered by how this of all things started trending.
Anyway, I like how the Switch itself feels. I've never had a problem with Nintendo's past consoles feeling cheap or plasticy like others have complained, but the Switch itself physically feels and looks slick. For all the jokes the have been made about waggle, the Joy-Cons really seem to be the true refinement of the Wii-motes after years of experience. They are still way too damn small, though for goofy stuff they should work. I still have my Pro Controller coming tomorrow though - the grip works fine, but it still feels a little weird.
And yeah, the cold sterile feel of the UI and lack of music or even ambient noises is odd, given how every other Nintendo console and handheld prior to this have had some little charm to them. Still just as easy and simple to use though, I'll say that. I imagine they'll eventually patch in themes like the 3DS or something.
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Post by SteveT on Mar 7, 2017 14:17:35 GMT
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Post by Jasi on Mar 7, 2017 19:11:40 GMT
Okay I was ignoring this console because I don't have time for video games in my life. But now I realize that I must make time for Zelda. Okay. Fine. Take my stupid money.
So all the Switches are sold out everywhere. I see the list price is $300 but some places are selling it for more. What is the deal with that—is it just supply and demand or am I overlooking something?
I guess I should just wait til more come back in stock and pay the list price? Are there must-have accessories? I am too lazy to do my own research.
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Post by SteveT on Mar 7, 2017 19:18:14 GMT
- Some of the high prices are resellers sneaking onto websites, such as Amazon.
- As far as must-have, you'll probably want a screen protector just in case. Otherwise, not really. Maybe get some extra Joy Cons when a multiplayer game that interests you comes along. Bear in mind that a lot of two player games will be using each Joy Con as an SNES-style controller, so you have two player support already in some cases.
- Everyone's guessing about restocks. Gamestop is advertising a shipment on April 16. Other stores are either getting a stream of restocks or releasing what they have in a trickle.
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Post by Wolf O'Donnell on Mar 7, 2017 20:15:56 GMT
- Some of the high prices are resellers sneaking onto websites, such as Amazon. - As far as must-have, you'll probably want a screen protector just in case. Otherwise, not really. Maybe get some extra Joy Cons when a multiplayer game that interests you comes along. Bear in mind that a lot of two player games will be using each Joy Con as an SNES-style controller, so you have two player support already in some cases. - Everyone's guessing about restocks. Gamestop is advertising a shipment on April 16. Other stores are either getting a stream of restocks or releasing what they have in a trickle. As much as I ahte to admit it, Jim Sterling's video about how Nintendo deliberately creates artificial scarcity is starting to look correct. |
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Post by Masamune on Mar 8, 2017 2:11:15 GMT
For the record, I still have an extra Switch that I'm planning on returning to the store. If someone wants to pay for it and the shipping, I'll gladly oblige sending it to whoever wants it.
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Post by DarkJuno on Mar 8, 2017 2:20:51 GMT
Does anyone actually have any real proof that Nintendo specifically short stocks their own stuff? All the "proof" is circumstantial at best, and would also support the more obvious theory - that is, Nintendo is insanely conservative with its estimates and production capacity and is wary to be stuck with any sort of loss. Nintendo itself is an incredibly conservative company, from the most incredibly conservative part of Japan, and would rather make the safest estimate for profit then take the risk to make more money, even for pretty sure things.
I mean, all the actual official info dug out by people would support that more then anything. They came off the Gamecube making a disappointed sales target and so of course they were caught off guard by the Wii hitting like it did - they genuinely had to go and put their manufacturing into overdrive. That made them overestimate how many Wii U's to make, and that bit them in the ass, so much that I'm actually surprised that they outright said how many they planned to make for launch, and it kinda seems like they managed to hit it.
For Amiibo, Nintendo has no idea how to make or sell toys, and story goes that the company they contracted to sculpt and make them went to them with a bid, fully expecting Nintendo to balk and ask them to lower their price, but to their surprise Nintendo just said "Yup, okay" and threw money at them. They also based production of that on the attach rate fo accessories on the Wii U, completely ignoring how their fans were so starved for decent quality collectibles that they were completely taken aback by them selling so well. All the talk of them having to spin up production to make more was pretty plainly true - the time from that statement to the second printings of everything showing up in stores matches up with the time period from a company like Hasbro starting up the machines for molding for mass production and those toys showing up in stores.
NES Classic was definitely a case of them just leaving money on the table, but not on purpose. If it were, the last week before Christmas there would've been a "miracle" and a whole bunch would've show up in stores to save Christmas - and hell, there would've been so many notes and memos leaked from Target and Wal-Mart about it you wouldn't be able to hide it anywhere.
As far as Limited Editions of games go, that one I'm not even going to hear it - they are literally called limited editions, the whole point is that not everyone is going to get it. I kinda hate how almost every other game company now throws the term "Limited Edition" on everything, and a year or two years later you can still see "Day One" editions of Assassin's Creed or Deus Ex. Yes, they could make more money by making more, but that's missing the whole point. Hell, I'm almost entirely certain having the Middle version of Breath of the Wild was a direct response to all the complaints.
Certainly, there are issues with how the company is run in the modern age, but purposely not making enough or not shipping enough is so against the point of a corporation it would be completely insane - and not in the usual way Nintendo is run - for it to be true. There are enough things to legitimately criticize them for that it's maddening that people focus on this stupid supposed controversey. I'm not saying it's not possible it's true, but you have to ignore so much for it to be the case.
ANYWAY.
Pro Controller came in today, I liked the Wii U Pro Controller fine, but this one just feels great out of the box, and it's great when playing.
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